As an ex-firefighter and someone who lives in a city of over a million people, I feel I should voice my opinion. Between the electrical codes, building codes, smoke and fire detectors, better constructed furnaces and all around electrical appliances we have significantly reduced the numbers of residential fires. We still get fires from fat fires, smoking, candles, kids playing with matches and so on. Education plays a signficant role in fire prevention. That's the key word, fire prevention. Sprinklers are not a preventive measure except in the case of the fire spreading to other dwellings. The fire has already started if the sprinkler has gone off. By far, your best line of defence is still prevention.
Posted: 10/17/2012 12:00:16 PM
For Sale :
I can almost hear the for sale signs being hammered into the lawns in Kenmount Terrace now ....
Posted: 10/17/2012 10:27:38 AM
In the end, you either have a house destroyed by fire or a house destroyed by water. As long as everyone gets out safely...and that just requires a good working smoke detector, or several.
Posted: 10/17/2012 9:29:09 AM
That kind of report just gives the insurance crowd another reason to raise rates. Take a step back and look at how few fires like this there are. Fire is fire now matter the age of the building. The old houses downtown seem to burn pretty quick as well so I say nonsense to that report.
Posted: 10/17/2012 9:16:21 AM
I don't know about the sprinkler idea. Will your house insurance then rise due to the greater risk of catastrophic water damage should a ceiling mounted sprinkler flood a room after your kids soccer ball breaks it open. What needs to be looked at is the materials themselves. Particle board or OSB is junk wood chips held together by glue. It's all you see used anymore in walls and roofs. Rafters now commonly use this junk as the main beam with some solid wood on either side. Add heat and flame from a fire and the house begins to melt first as the glue softens, and then catches fire, with the glue not being flame retardant. And while there are some good contractors out there, there seem to be more cutting every corner they can to save on their expense, but that saving doesn't get passed along to the home purchaser. Just watch the state these rapid rise subdivisions are in, in five or ten years. And as for the home "warranties," anyone I know who has tried to make a claim says it's worthless marketing. I wouldn't buy a home any newer than 10 years old so that at least you can see how it's fairing after a bit of time.
Posted: 10/17/2012 9:05:31 AM
Just me :
How about making the builders build to a better standard. Ban the use of OSB etc as roofing, exterior sheeting and flooring would be a great start. Actually it would be the best move by government in years.
The houses built lately are minimum code garbage. I built my own house and its solid, I shake my head when ever I pass one of the shat boxes that are being slapped together in the new subdivisions.
The poor people buying these because they look nive on the outside better be ready to sell before 10 years or they will be falling down.
Posted: 10/17/2012 8:57:08 AM
All of those products used is a cheaper way for constructing company to make more money with littler expensive, and why do house have to be so close together..hint hint again more money, it's all about that dollar..
Posted: 10/17/2012 8:51:49 AM
I'd think a review of the new building materials used would be first on the list!
Posted: 10/17/2012 8:36:27 AM
Newfie Bill :
NFPA 13D Sprinler systems are now needed to be installed in each and every home. People need to educate themselves, these systems are NOT that expensive as "Contractors" would leave you to believe.
Posted: 10/17/2012 8:16:06 AM
Not sure :
I'm not sure if we should put sprinkler systems in houses. It may be a very good idea, pending cost. But if somebody is already spending hundreds of thousands, whats a few more? Maybe we could quit building the houses so close together, we're not short of space here.
Posted: 10/17/2012 8:07:22 AM
Yeah you won't loose your propery to fire it'll be the water! Stupid! Hey, let's all switch to Halon Gas systems!
Posted: 10/17/2012 8:02:23 AM
Vince MacKenzie maybe on to something.
Since most plastics and composite building materials are made from the same materials as gasoline or diesel fuel, notably petroleum products, they will easily burn and cause severe damage to their homes.
As for requiring domestic sprinklers, that will be a tough sell as existing homeowners will have to spend tens and thousands of dollars to install them.
Best policy is to ban potential homeowners from using any materials made of petroleum products such as vinyl siding.
Posted: 10/17/2012 7:51:51 AM
Give me a break :
This guys recommendations are a newfie joke. He is totally out to lunch.
Posted: 10/17/2012 7:48:37 AM
I am surprised that is has not become mandatory long before now..If they work , as they should, it seems that the damage would be confined to the areas covered by them..In the meantime remember that in a lot of cases the most damage caused is done by the Fire Department trying to locate and put down the fire.( This damage is in no way considered deliberate, of course not.)